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Post by digger on May 1, 2014 18:10:14 GMT -6
I run a 3 link on coil over eliminators with LR in front RR behind. Springs are LR 200, RR 185. Bar angles are LR 20 degrees up hill to chassis.RR 5 degrees. Now here's my question. With the rear end being square in the car as the car rolls over on the right rear and basically straightens the bar out does it not push the rear end backwards and lengthen the wheel base on that side?
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Post by flipflopoo1oo on May 1, 2014 19:10:20 GMT -6
Yep it does, and the left with more angle moves forward 4 times greater when rolled! When you touch the gas extreme steer happens on the left and if the right bar goes negative when under throttle it will close the right side! Try 6 left and 8 right with your car leaned left! If faster you will need 4 and 6 with speed if square! I run closed 3/8" and opens when rolled, this helps you get off the corner straighter and on the bottom if needed!
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Post by digger on May 1, 2014 19:35:30 GMT -6
That's exactly what I was thinking. If I run the right side 3/8" closed it should help the car turn in and mid corner shouldn't it? I know a lot of other things can also help in and mid too but this is just for arguments sake... lol
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Post by flipflopoo1oo on May 2, 2014 21:53:35 GMT -6
I have run a biscuit on my rt. lower and allow it to open on throttle lift and close 1" on the throttle taking roll out of the factors running little angle to mess around with drivability! 3/8 static closed to 3/8- 1/2 open and compressed closed 1'! Fully adjustable! and more or less if needed with the bar angles or steer extra when braking harder! Use the ft. as a adjustable stop after grinding a few threads as not to mess up the threads being hit by the plunger! No waiting for roll or nose to turn and comes off the corner straighter! Only a bump on the brake to get under any car any time! You can use both pedals at the same time to steer more or less!
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Post by flipflopoo1oo on May 2, 2014 22:17:06 GMT -6
I have also ran a adjustable top chain bar that connected at the same location as the lower on a welded bird cage to lift at that point when on the throttle and the chain allowed roll even when lifting the throttle! A spring pull bar allowed it to twist and tighten the chain to hook instantly when rolled with out more steer being added! A preload with driver was needed to be set! I made 2 plates that turned and locked around the housing with the lower bar mount bolt and no welding was needed! 4 upper locations on these brackets to get it right! The highest was 5' above the axle housing!
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Post by digger on May 5, 2014 4:10:47 GMT -6
I've only ran this car 4 times and have two heat race wins. Led 14 laps in the 20 lap feature and had someone cut down my left rear. Still learning about how it works.
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Post by flipflopoo1oo on May 5, 2014 7:37:43 GMT -6
It will happen! You have to protect your car up to the checkered flag! No racing, only driving allows you to finish with a bit of skill and a lot of luck!!!
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Post by flipflopoo1oo on May 5, 2014 7:37:59 GMT -6
It will happen! You have to protect your car up to the checkered flag! No racing, only driving allows you to finish with a bit of skill and a lot of luck!!!
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Post by tomplumer on Jun 4, 2014 15:51:10 GMT -6
help just got this car it has a 3-link with 20 inch long rt bar 18 lt bar 200 lb coil over lt and 180 lb rt with a j-bar panhard and a biscut bar upper 700 lt front 600 rt front im cant get it to handle can sombody help me out
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Post by confused on Jun 4, 2014 17:29:29 GMT -6
Tomplumer, you need to give WAAAYYYYYY more information than this. What is the car doing or not doing and where on the track.
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Post by flipflopoo1oo on Jun 4, 2014 20:44:41 GMT -6
If new and asking, if you read all my other postings it may let you answer for your self! Run a search on set-ups! I do things a bit different than most to let our cars win, but it has always been very productive with any driver at the wheel! I lean them left to roll only to center for a quick recovery off the corner! Never hiking in the rear but with a stronger rt. ft. and lt. rear! Loading lt. ft. and lt. rear more than right! The caster at negative extremes! Just use you head and choose what works by laws of mother nature! We will be here for you with more info when you have more details! If you want any car on three wheels just put a 75 stronger lt. rear than right and it roll over and up she goes! I use the spring tension of the left front to add traction to the right rear when rolled or when just lifting with the shocks and springs being correctly placed! The crosses pivot centers, roll centers, and moment centers are grouped closely at a point close to the right ft. edge of the drivers seat! This lets it all happen instead of trying to force it to!
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